Safe tips on Training Knives?

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Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby Lunumbra » Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:38 pm

So, I'm making some more training knives to bring to the North East Instructor's seminar.

Fun stuff, My Nkonka, a beautifully proportioned dagger, and one of the new Spyderco Rock Salt's by Ed Schempp.

So, my question, I'm looking for a general consensus, on how large a diameter I need to make the tips.

Generally I compromise between taking some length off the tip and making the taper to the tip larger.

Usually I use a dime to layout the curve.

What do Ya'll think?

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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby ikanspel4u » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:01 pm

Hi there!

I don't have a suggestion about making your trainers, but I do have a comment about trainers... hope you don't mind me posting here.

After our seminar, I noticed that some of the trainers were rather sharper than they should be. And certainly working with some crimps cut skin. From a cleanliness and sterilization standpoint, I think we should find a way to clean out trainers before and after each session ( especially the crimps which draw blood).

Any comments on that? What to use or avoid?

By the way, thanks for a great weekend!

All the best,

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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby Bram » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:50 pm

Rachel:

Don't train with CRMIPTs..train with DRONES..
Never train with a working tool...EVER..
I use emmery paper etc on my DRONE's edges to round them off more than the factory does..
You have to remember that the concept of functional trainer DRones is still a mystery to many manufacturers and CSSD people have been stuck with the Father of Functional trainer DRones for many years..I constantly tell and retell the factory that edges are too square..they think I'm NUTS..
I mean what's a trainer Drone? You want no edge? You want thick blades with rounded edges? no corners?no square shoulders? Are you NUTS????

Use Anti Viral cleansers - hand cleaner all day..I do..'Its why I said to all of you that it was in the front pocket of my training bag..Please feel free to use it as much as you need to
I put it on my hands and my trainers..

Your training bag should have:
Anti Viral -Anti Bacterial Hand-Skin Cleaner
Anti Bacterial wound ointment
Bandages: heavy duty and waterproof of assorted sizes
Single use sets of Super Glue

Get a multi HEP vaccination
Get a Gamma gobulin vaccination

be safe
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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby Bram » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:52 pm

Keep Clorox wipes and other anti viral wipes to clean your trainers
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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby Tim Kashino » Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:16 pm

CSSD Guam Training Rule #1: No working tools/live blades on the training floor EVER.

Bram's suggestion on using emory paper to smooth out the "edges" on the trainers is a good idea - one that I hadn't considered before. The cuts and scrapes we receive from dragging metal across each other's skin can be problrmatic and even dangerous depending on the environment you happen to be in.

The latest HEP series (not sure of the designator, but think it's the latest HEP B) makes the GG shot obsolete, and it's less painful than the old "peanut butter shot"... thank God for that. I haven't had a GG shot ever since the military started using the new HEP series, and I've been sent to some pretty filthy places over the years.

I wouldn't recommend Super Glue as it has no bacteriostatic qualities to my knowledge. Nu-skin or similar liquid bandage products have antisceptic qualities and are sufficient for the minor cuts and scratches one might receive from training... but they can sting like a bitch. I try to keep two full vials in my gear.

"Wet Ones" makes anti-bacterial wipes (and market them in resealable travel packs) that are a little easier on people with sensitive skin. I use these when I "travel," but I use Clorox wipes on my trainers.

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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby Bram » Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:59 pm

As a Para 1/ EMT/ Emergency Tech I'm telling you to make sure you have something to close a wound immediately..
Keep superglue with you @ all times.
If you need to stop bleeding or set up a wound before you die or bleed to death use Super Glue..
We use it in surgery..

This is not as a bandage like nu skin or liquid bandage..Its a serious wound sealer rather than stiches or butterfly bandages

be safe
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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby Tim Kashino » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:19 am

... and it's a whole lot cheaper than the Kwik-Clot that we're issued in our blow-out bags. There's nothing wrong with super glue for ditch medicine as long as appropriate medical care follows ASAP.

When I mentioned liquid bandages, I was speaking strictly from a minor first aid and infection prevention position. ;)
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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby sharpknives » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:03 pm

don't listen to what others say. go on with your knives training because that would be a great help for an instructor like me.
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Re: Safe tips on Training Knives?

Postby gboisen » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:32 pm

Where and when is the NE instructor camp?

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